Comments on: Tribes: A Group Blogging Project – #Tribes

By: human3rror

human3rror — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:57:04 +0000

Hmmm

—Sorry for the brevity and rampant spelling errors… This was obviously \”Sent from my iPhone\”.

By: human3rror

human3rror — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:57:04 +0000

Hmmm

—Sorry for the brevity and rampant spelling errors… This was obviously \”Sent from my iPhone\”.

By: Jason Jeong

Jason Jeong — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:26:17 +0000

yea i do. i'll get back on track soon…it would be an amusing statement if I said the same thing to you

By: human3rror

human3rror — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:28:14 +0000

u need to blog more.

By: Jason Jeong

Jason Jeong — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:23:02 +0000

hey Claire! it was great to see you on your blog as well! keep the updates coming!

By: claire

claire — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:24:47 +0000

hi jason! this is a great site you've built – i'm looking forward to reading updates.

By: Jason Jeong

Jason Jeong — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:02:33 +0000

Hey Dave! I appreciate your comment and I absolutely agree with you with what you said! It is up to God whether or not people respond. That is the bottom line. However, God does use all people, Christian or not, to accomplish His ends and that is why there can be something to learn from all people.

In no way am I saying that God needs us. But as leaders, we are to lead by example and not merely in talk. As leaders we must have a heart to learn from anything that will teach us something. As leaders we are the ones to view secular thought through the Biblical lens.

I really appreciate your heart for the sovereignty of God and am encouraged!

By: Dave Radetsky

Dave Radetsky — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:26:47 +0000

My question is why a person would look to a non-Christian like Godin for advice about running the church? The Bible is clear that the duty of the church is to preach the Word. The pastor's job is to train up the believers to do the work of the ministry. If the pastor is doing his study and teaching properly, then it is God's problem whether people respond. Jonathan Edwards was one of the most effective preachers in history not because of his own work, but because God used him. He used to write out his sermons and read them in a monotone on purpose. His reasoning was that he did not want to impact the work of God's spirit in any way. He saw himself as a vessel God would use, not as one who needed to to anything to the message to impact people. Historians tell us that even though he read in a monotone that his sermons were so powerful that people would get up and yell for him to stop preaching because the conviction of sin by the Holy Spirit was so great. One does not have to do anything other than honor God and He will take care of the rest. He doesn't need us to help Him accomplish His ends.

By: Paul Steinbrueck

Paul Steinbrueck — Mon, 11 May 2009 19:43:05 +0000

>>My point was not to limit God, but recognize the responsibility of the leader.

Hi Jason, I understand. I was just saying that using God as an example demonstrates that it's not _always_ the leader's fault (as Godin claims). Often leaders are too quick to blame their followers, but sometimes leaders are too hard on themselves, imo.

btw, something strange is going on with your comments. post says there are 3 but only yours is being displayed.

By: Jason Jeong

Jason Jeong — Mon, 11 May 2009 15:27:53 +0000

Hey Paul! I absolutely agree with you! God isn’t limited by us! My point was not to limit God, but recognize the responsibility of the leader. Too often I hear of people blaming circumstances or the group of people they are trying to lead rather than it was their own pride, their own fears, or their own laziness that was the short coming. It’s sometimes tricky to take a secular book and apply it to ministry! I appreciate your comment! I love what you’re doing with OurChurch.com!